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Dividend Stocks
09/11/07 at 11:56:12
 
Bubbalew:
 
Here is a thread from the Early Retirement Forum that discusses the benefits of dividend strategies:
 
http://www.early-retirement.org/forums/f28/dividend-growth-versus-liquidation-29 961.html
 
The fellow who wrote the kick-off post (John Walter Russell) is the best-respected and best-liked Numbers Guy in the history of the Retire Early movement. We are not permitted to link to his site at this board (for obvious reasons). But you can learn about his research by following the link from the Early Retirement Forum thread.
 
If you would like to participate on the thread without Greaney defenders dumping their garbage onto it, you should send an e-mail to Andy Rabinowitz (owner of the site) insisting that they be removed. Your fellow community members will be eternally in your debt if your efforts happen to be the thing that brings the long-running Campaign of Terror against the Retire Early community to an end.
 
Good luck, Bubbalew!
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #1 - 09/11/07 at 12:06:54
 
If Andy takes down the guy (it has to be a guy since the entire Campaign of Terror is attributable to a bad case of Boy Disease) who put up the fake Hocus2007 post, he sends a signal to the rest of the board community there as to what he will tolerate.
 
If Andy fails to take that guy down, he sends a very different signal.
 
Either way, we all learn something about whether Andy Rabinowitz has what it takes to administer a Retire Early board in accord with the desires of the majority of community members, eh?
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #2 - 09/11/07 at 12:30:04
 
The Greaney defenders put forward some exciting new research making the case for the Old School  SWR methodology clearer than ever:
 
http://www.early-retirement.org/forums/f28/dont-feed-gded-trolls-29966.html
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #3 - 09/11/07 at 12:32:33
 
I just noticed the part where Brewer12345 says that: "Past performance is no guarantee of future results."
 
That doesn't sound so good for Team Intercst, does it?
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #4 - 09/11/07 at 12:39:01
 
It's always something.
 
That's (Take it as given that everything above is a lie) re this matter.
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #5 - 09/11/07 at 13:24:00
 
Has Greaney been banned from the Early Retirement Forum?
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #6 - 09/11/07 at 13:29:23
 
The universe of voices that Brewer12345 can listen to without his tummy beginning to feel all funny grows ever smaller (see link above).
 
Will people who cannot bear to hear mention of what the historical data says on an internet discussion board be able to stick with a high stock allocation in the event that stocks perform in the future anything at all as they always have in the past? My strong hunch is "no."
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #7 - 09/11/07 at 13:53:03
 
This just in from a fellow named CuppaJoe:
 
"Reminds me of someone from personnel who called me into her office one day. While I was waiting, her boss took a call right behind my ear, and said significantly, "we will not blacklist anyone." Fastforward a few months, my new dept. was having lunch, my boss took me aside and said, "see that guy over there, he's retiring and not telling anyone why; do you know who he is?" I said yeah, he's the head of personnel and they probably didn't tell him why. So is this forum open to all, or isn't it?"
 
I'm a little concerned about what might happen next if people get the idea that they can say things like that on a Retire Early board.
 
How about you?
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #8 - 09/11/07 at 14:06:44
 
Now this individual named "Milton" shows up saying that, if someone doesn't find value in a thread, he should just not read it and not feel a need to destroy it so that no one else has a chance to read it either.
 
I knew something like this was going to happen if we allowed them to keep the words "early retirement" in the title of that forum. I tried to warn you people, but did anybody listen? Oh, nooooo....
 
We should have seen this one coming a long time ago. Aspiring early retirees have an independent streak. We simply cannot allow these sorts on our boards. They're Trouble with a capital "T" and that rhymes with "thee," John Greaney.
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #9 - 09/11/07 at 14:13:23
 
Is there any way that we could ban Andy Rabinowitz from the board that he owns?
 
I'm just trying to think ahead a bit here. I'm afraid that we might be falling behind the curve.
 
Perhaps this would be a good time for some of our researchers to get to work on this Andy Rabinowitz individual.
 
What do you think, John?
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #10 - 09/11/07 at 14:31:16
 
Yakers is a mixed bag.
 
He says, in response to the question as to whether the board should be open to lying yer azz off on SWRs or not that: "it is not an absolute or philosophical question as much as a practical one."
 
I like that answer! Who the heck can figure out what he's saying with that one?
 
But then he steps in it big time. He says: "JWR is a marginal problem but Hocu$ is beyond the pale." El hoco loco is indeed beyond the pale, everyone knows that, so I don't give him any major points for pointing out that one. But JWR is only a marginal problem? A marginal problem? Has this Yakers individual not read the Talking Points? Does he not know about the eyeballing the data thing? Does he not understand that JWR knows more about what the historical data says than that El Hoco Loco individual could ever learn if he studied it every day for the rest of his cotton-pickin', med-takin' life?
 
Yakers is crackers. That's (Take it as given that everything above is a lie) re this one.
 
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Reply #11 - 09/11/07 at 14:36:13
 
Get this!
 
So then this other individual links back to the play-by-play appearing at this Stinkhole! Holy Baloney!
 
Did I not say that this thing was so crazy that just about anything could happen and probably would?  
 
You remember when I said that, right? I just had one of those funny feelings.
 
I bet there are going to be a lot of people asking to switch their votes tonight, eh?
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #12 - 09/11/07 at 14:47:22
 
I'm getting the sense that Brewer12345 is none too pleased with the "Yakers is Crackers!" comment.
 
It was a typo, Brew, old pal! What I meant to say is that "Yakers is Yakers." What I was getting at is that it is not an absolute or philosophical question as much as a practical one. Do you see now?
 
Yakers is -- Yakers! Brew is -- Brew! And El Loco is -- El Loco!
 
And the data is -- the data! (You knew I was at some point no longer going to be able to resist sticking in a zinger aimed at Greaney, didn't you?)
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #13 - 09/11/07 at 15:02:59
 
Nords says this:
 
"This board is a tremendously valuable resource to me, and it's more valuable to me than our putative right to freedom of expression on it. I support editing or even banning those who appear to be adversely affecting the quality of the board's content.... Don't just sit there in your Monday-morning quarterback's chair and complain about the management."
 
I agree with Nords on the idea that those of us who want to see the board achieve its potential have an obligation to pitch in and help out. I put up a post at the Motley Fool board urging Greaney's removal from the Retire Early community on November 23, 2002. I've paid my dues.
 
I also agree with Nords on the idea of banning those who hurt the board. I do not agree with him that the way to do that is to ban those who post honestly on the SWR topic. Greaney and those who have posted in defense of him and his long-running Campaign of Terror against the Retire Early community should be banned. That's what the site administrators promise us they will do when this sort of individual enters the community and so that's what should be done. We all have an obligation to honor our promises. Yes, even on the internet. Yes, even on matters that will affect whether our Retire Early plans will fail or not.
 
When the published rules are enforced in a reasonable way, there is no need to limit free speech. The published rules are not content-based rules. There is no rule that says we cannot post honestly on the SWR topic. We built the board so that we could share with each other ideas on early retirement. We have every right in the world to insist that we be permitted to use it for that purpose. Banning the Greaney defenders is not banning speech on the topic of early retirement. It is banning a group that has been blocking perfectly appropriate Retire Early discussions for over five years now.
 
Ban the Ban! Free the Early Retirement Forum! Down with the Goons! Up with the Normals!
 
SWRs! SWRs! SWRs! SWRs!
 
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Re: Dividend Stocks
Reply #14 - 09/11/07 at 15:13:18
 
Twaddle says that he who is without sin should cast the first stone. That's charitable.
 
But then he says that bans should only apply to the truly insane. No fair!
 
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